Family of Robert FITZ WALKELINE and Margaret TALBOT

Husband:	Robert FITZ WALKELINE ( -1232)
Wife:	Margaret TALBOT ( - )
Children:	Ermintrude FITZ WALKELINE ( - )
	Margaret FITZ WALKELINE ( - )

Husband: Robert FITZ WALKELINE

	Robert FITZ WALKELINE, "Robert Fitz-Walkeline"

Name:	Robert FITZ WALKELINE
Sex:	Male
Father:	Robert FITZ WALKELINE (1120?-1160?)
Mother:	-
Residence		Radbourne Hall, Derbyshire, England
Death	1232

Wife: Margaret TALBOT

Name:	Margaret TALBOT 1
Sex:	Female
Father:	Quintin TALBOT ( - )
Mother:	Ermitrude UNKNOWN ( - )

Child 1: Ermintrude FITZ WALKELINE

Name:	Ermintrude FITZ WALKELINE
Sex:	Female
Spouse:	William de STAFFORD ( - )

Child 2: Margaret FITZ WALKELINE

Name:	Margaret FITZ WALKELINE
Sex:	Female
Spouse:	John de CHANDOS ( - )

Note on Husband: Robert FITZ WALKELINE

from:

'Parishes: Eckington - Eyam', Magna Britannia: volume 5: Derbyshire (1817), pp. 142-164. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=50728&strquery=Walkelin Date accessed: 06 December 2012.

 

 

Egginton

 

EGGINTON, in the hundred of Morleston and Litchurch, and in the deanery of Castillar, lies about seven miles south-west from Derby, near the road to Burton-on-Trent, from which it is about four miles distant.

 

In the month of March, 1644, there was a battle on Egginton-heath, between the royalists and Sir John Gell's forces, commanded by Major Molanus and Captain Rodes. The Royalists are said to have been defeated, and to have been driven across the Trent. (fn. 42)

 

The manor of Egginton (Eghintune), which had belonged to Tochi in the reign of Edward the Confessor, is stated in the Survey of Domesday to have been held, at the time of the survey, by Azelin, under Geoffry Alselin. This manor, or a moiety of it, was held under the Bardolfs (fn. 43) , descendants of the above-mentioned Geoffry, by Ralph Fitz-Germund, whose son William Fitz-Ralph, Seneschall of Normandy, and founder of Dale-Abbey, gave it to William de Grendon, his nephew, in exchange for Stanley, near Dale-Abbey, which he had first given him. Ermitrude Talbot gave to Robert, son of Robert Fitz-Walkelin, in free marriage with Margaret her daughter, all her lands in Egginton which she had of the gift of William de Grendon, her husband, Margaret, elder daughter and coheir of this Robert married Sir John Chandos; upon the death of whose descendant, Sir John Chandos, the celebrated warrior, in 1370, a moiety of the manor of Egginton passed to his niece Elizabeth, daughter of Sir John Lawton, and wife of Sir Peter De la Pole, who was one of the Knights of the Shire in 1400. This moiety is now the property of Edward Sacheverell Chandos Pole, Esq., of Radborne. Ermitrude, the other coheiress of Fitz-Walkelin, married Sir William de Stafford, whose son Robert left five daughters coheiresses; in consequence of which this moiety became divided into several shares. These having been re-united by purchases, were vested in the family of Lathbury. A coheiress of Lathbury brought this moiety to Robert Leigh of Whittield, in the parish of Glossop, descended from the Leighs of Adlington, in Cheshire. On the death of Sir Henry Leigh of Egginton, in the reign of James I., this estate passed to his daughter and coheir Anne, married to Simon Every, Esq., of Chard, in Somersetshire, who was created a Baronet in 1641. It is now the property, and Eggintonhall the seat, of his descendant, Sir Henry Every, Bart. The greater part of Egginton-hall was destroyed by fire in the year 1736, and soon afterwards rebuilt: the late Sir Edward Every made considerable additions to it.

 

The manor of Hargate, formerly called Heath-house, is supposed to have been a portion of the original manor, not granted by William Fitz-Ralph to his nephew William de Grendon: it was afterwards successively the property of the Frechevilles and the Babingtons of Dethick. It was purchased of the latter by the Leighs, and has since been annexed to their moiety of the manor of Egginton, being now the property of Sir Henry Every.

 

In the parish church are several memorials for the family of (fn. 44) Every. The rectory is in the alternate patronage of Mr. Pole and Sir Henry Every.

Note on Wife: Margaret TALBOT

The Manor of Egginton, in the hundred of Morleston and Litchurch, seven miles southwest of Debry, was held under the Bardolfs by Ralph Fitz Germund, whose son, William Fitz Ralph, Seneschall of Normany, gave it to his nephew, William de Grendon, in exchange for Stanley. Ermitrude Talbot gave to Robert, son of Robert Fitz Walkelin in free marriage with Margaret her daughter, all her land in Egginton which she had of William de Grendon, her husband. Robert Fitz Walkelin and Margaret de Grendon had two daughters and coheirs, Margaret who married Sir John Chanos; and Ermitrude who married Sir William de Stafford.

 

~ Magna Britannia, Vol. V, Derbyshire, p. 156

 

• From Gen-Medieval Archives: Robert Fitz Walchelin. 193

From: rbevan@paradise.net.nz (Rosie Bevan)

Subject: Re: Robert de Lisle and Ermentrude de Ferrers/Talbot

Date: 5 Mar 2003 18:51:29 -0800

 

The pedigree given in an article on the Manor of Eggington [F.N.Fisher, ?Eggington Court Rolls 1306/7 ? 1311/12', Journal of the Derbyshire Archaeological and Natural History Society, v. LXXXV, pp.36-61] shows the following:

 

1.Walchelin of Radbourne 1086, fl 1125

2.William

2.Robert f. Walchelin d.c. 1160

3.Robert f. Robert f. Walchelin d.1232

+ Margaret, da.of William de Grendon d.1203, and Ermentrude

widow of Quintin Talbot

4.Ermentrude

+ William de Stafford fl 1286

4.Margaret

+ John de Chandos

 

From a case in the 1233 curia regis roll, it appears that William Talbot, brother of Robert's wife Margery (Margaret), claimed custody of the lands of Robert f.Robert f.Walchelin against William, Earl Ferrers. A jury stated that Robert had held a quarter share of the vill rents of Eggington by military service, which came about by his marriage to the daughter and heir of William de Grendon. However, Robert had also held in socage, in his own right, a quarter share of the manor of Eggington from the heirs of William f.Ralph, Seneschal of Normandy. (Supporting evidence of earlier fitz Walchelin interest in Eggington, is that in 1141 Robert Ferrers II had granted Tutbury priory the whole tithe of the new borough of Nottingham in lieu of the silver mark which Robert f. Walchelin had given annually from rents in Eggington. [Avrom Saltman, The Cartulary of Tutbury Priory,(Historical Manuscripts Commission, 1962) no.71].) It appears that William Talbot's interest lay in the land held in socage but it is not stated how. Judgement went in his favour [CRR, v.XV no.133].

From this it seems that Margery de Grendon and William Talbot shared the same mother. However there is some conflict over which Talbot Ermentrude was married to. Whether she was the same as married to Henry fitzGerold is difficult to say, but his widow, Ermentrude, was living in 1233 [CRR v.XV no.185]. I think it unlikely that this would be Ermentrude the grandaughter as she appears to have been a minor in 1232 on the death of her father. Her heirs were her five daughters by William Stafford.

 

Although there seems to be no proof that Walchelin was related to the Ferrers family, there is very strong onomastic evidence for a Ferrers connection.

 

There is also something of a hint of it in charters relating to Tutbury Priory, founded by Henry de Ferrers, whose caput of his honor was at Tutbury Castle. Walchelin was the third of five witnesses of a confirmation charter given around 1110 by Robert de Ferrers, of the foundation and endowment of the priory by his parents [The Cartulary of Tutbury Priory, no.103].

 

Robert married Margaret de Grendon, daughter of William de Grendon and Ermitrude. 193(Margaret de Grendon was born about 1200 in Ockbrook, Shardlow, Derbyshire, England and died in Egginton, Burton-upon-Trent, Derbyshire, England.)

 

source: http://cybergata.com/roots/4476.htm

Sources

1

Daniel and Samuel Lysons, "Magna Britannia" (1817). Vol 5, pp. 142-164. Text From Source: Ermitrude Talbot gave to Robert, son of Robert Fitz-Walkelin, in free marriage with Margaret her daughter, all her lands in Egginton which she had of the gift of William de Grendon, her husband, Margaret, elder daughter and coheir of this Robert married Sir John Chandos; upon the death of whose descendant, Sir John Chandos, the celebrated warrior, in 1370, a moiety of the manor of Egginton passed to his niece Elizabeth, daughter of Sir John Lawton, and wife of Sir Peter De la Pole, who was one of the Knights of the Shire in 1400.

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